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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 22 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



pet music with the splitscreen visuals is beyond arty, oooh, what a daft idea

i need to try this, senior mutt has a few interesting sounds, quite a few varieties of wood windmill is within his repertoire as is playing his toenails to sound like a covert tunnel crew

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 22 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

at the mo she is wriggling onmy lap

harness good

fluent in dog as pup, due to a good start with plenty of adult mutts

bad uncle has started teaching useful skills and behaviours , start young or dont bother for some things

birds are a mixed set of stimuli, prey and oddly scary at the same time

pigeons on the food outside the desk window is a bit new to her and she has decided a lap nap is wise

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 22 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

snoozing under a blanket on a sofa.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 22 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a charming pup

fluent in non verbal dog, speaks a strange saluki related verbal language, can do the mind meld thing(internal mutt knowledge )

an unusual and well-adjusted youngster, they dont know what they have yet, this one has star quality in several ways

her behaviour with new experiences and an old werewolf as directing staff was remarkable.

her hearing is a major sense to her, good at sight, sniff pretty good

in a few hours we got from strangers who had met to a deep understanding of how this will work

i have started to teach her basics that can be applied in assorted ways, she learns faster than i do

tis a wriggle weasel and a serious student

scared of a pigeon while "exploring"? hide under the werewolf's legs is a rather nice start

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 22 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Son got another cat yesterday; a tortoiseshell siamese. It is another rescue cat, but at present there are slight problems with their current cat Molly. New cat seems all right, but Molly is hissing and growling at it and did attack in a mild sort of way, although not all out warfare. The new one does seem to be submissive to Molly, so hopefully they will get on all right after a bit. At present, Molly is in the house and new one is in the conservatory with a cardboard screen in the window so they can't see each other. No doubt things will be sorted over the weekend.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 22 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

there are plug in and spray about calming pheromone products for felines

a mogg might well resent royalty "invading" its home, if both get happy smells it will help with diplomacy

werewolves need to know the ways of felines

i have met a few se asian moggs, very stylish or dudes.
they are as different as mutts and salukis

new puss on the block is often a bit tense, they will sort it in a way that suits one or both, probably both
fwitiw my bet is the siamese will become leader, the other one will enjoy the extra bounty

murder in velvet

ps they will bond with a person, that is good and bad, by "bond" i do mean they own their servant but will protect it if it is useful
very like salukis

they can be very "friendly", that is a polite way to say manipulative

they sing, which is a mixed blessing

Slim



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 22 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The second male cat here was immediately fascinated with the old man, who was entirely disinterested in return. The dynamic has shifted over the past 8 months or so to one of reluctant acceptance, with a range of behaviors from old man beating the stuffing out of young punk (just to make it loudly clear who's in charge, no real damage) all the way to old man bathing young punk by tongue.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 22 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the Burmese lilac point on pale brown was as unlike a cat as any feline i have ever met, a rescue posh one who lived happily with a free-range pet rat

the standard seal points i knew as a kid were charming, aloof but still quite catty

as cats go the SEA ones are better than some i have met, of the ones that have lived with me the half Scottish wildcat one had most style but he was horrible in amusing ways
cat, a london go home with him stray was charming and just blended in for 17 yrs(good mouser)

the big square faced new york street cats have some merit, i would not take one in as lord of the manner.

im not speciesist, really, but they........

i recon diplomacy with felines is as far as i wish to go

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 22 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I may be trying to stop myself taking on a rescue, an adult ex-breeding dog (risk of health issues probably sadly higher). Current bitch likes a young man when out and about, don't know what she'd think about bringing the young man home though

(She is spayed and the snip would be high on the priority list for him)

When introducing, expecting silliness initially, how long would you sit with everyone to get a better idea of what they think after novelty has worn off?

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 22 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a few days? probably enough to work out if you both want to keep it.

not as a "move". take it for a walk, invite it for a meal etc, get to know it. Play, snooze share body odour

i take to some canines, others are a task i do not need or best with somebody else

one mutt on mutt adjustment did not get difficult in the first few months, then it needed robust action, then all was sorted(the yellow hell hound and the wolf were a splendid team once they understood i was in charge and they had to work together. that was the instant beer in every orifice school of dog training, no one got hurt
most mutts are far less"challenging" than those two
a few of the downsizer crew met them as a pair when they were quite mature

ki sorted mr chompski's position after a couple of days, shaking him by the nose was a fairly clear message of his role as her palace eunuch

at the mo mr chompski has to wear his basket if he shows the slightest assertiveness
i am teaching her, not him, he does not get to decide anything(he is daft as a brush and although mostly nice etc he is not good at decisions)

odd game mutt whispering, it can be loud and quiet

if you start as pack enforcer, leader will emerge, and they will play happy families having been strangers

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 22 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps mutts are puppies in most ways, they are also a bit wolfy

it is not normal for a wolf pack to take in a stranger(unless there is a serious personnel deficiency in the pack), mutts can be a bit easier as in many ways they are wolf puppies and very adaptable to social changes

adult mutt and a new pup or another senior dog needs care, but it is not usually too difficult if you know at least one of them

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 22 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The two cats were introduced the first evening, which didn't work out. Molly attacked, but no seriously, and siamese defended itself, but not seriously. They have been kept apart for a couple of days; Molly inside the house, siamese in conservatory. They were introduced again today and although Molly hissed, the other one submitted and they walked off I think. Not safe to leave them together yet, but progress. Just as well as it is upsetting our son rather.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 22 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mistress Rose wrote:
The two cats were introduced the first evening, which didn't work out. Molly attacked, but no seriously, and siamese defended itself, but not seriously. They have been kept apart for a couple of days; Molly inside the house, siamese in conservatory. They were introduced again today and although Molly hissed, the other one submitted and they walked off I think. Not safe to leave them together yet, but progress. Just as well as it is upsetting our son rather.


Defnitely sounds like progress to me

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 22 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well it seems Siamese is now allowed in the house by Molly. I will hear the full story when some comes to work today, but they seem to have accepted each other, or at least Molly has accepted the siamese, which is rather more to the point.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 22 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:
I may be trying to stop myself taking on a rescue, an adult ex-breeding dog (risk of health issues probably sadly higher). Current bitch likes a young man when out and about, don't know what she'd think about bringing the young man home though

(She is spayed and the snip would be high on the priority list for him)

When introducing, expecting silliness initially, how long would you sit with everyone to get a better idea of what they think after novelty has worn off?


So we met, and he seems sweet and was quite attached to current people. Bit of mutual bum sniffing (between dogs ) and walked quite nicely without hassling. But my girl didn't seem overly impressed. Which is fine, until I compared how she was later that day with a collie boy - utterly in love at first sniff. She's exhausted today because of all the prancing around

So, overall, not convinced the little Cav is the right fit but also he's not a bad little thing.

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