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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 20 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i do not know , none of mine have done the pale and white splodge thing on the older leaves

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 20 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well I'm sorry DPack, that's just not good enough, I expect you to know.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 20 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It might be sun scorch. I have never grown cucumbers, but I know it can happen.

Shan



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 20 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mistress Rose wrote:
It might be sun scorch. I have never grown cucumbers, but I know it can happen.

Agreed.... also looks like over watering.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 20 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sgt.colon wrote:
Well I'm sorry DPack, that's just not good enough, I expect you to know.




if it any consolation my, "designated survivor", cuc plant is about a foot tall, has one cuc in waiting which is about the size of a gummybear and is rather overwhelmed by nasturtiums

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 20 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks MR and Shan. Sun scorch would maybe answer it. In that super hot weather we had a couple of weeks ago, that was the cuc that got the driest, soil wise and the greenhouse gets full sun all day. I didn't think I'd over watered Shan, I do it every three days.

DPack, then you have my sympathies. At least I've have several cucs already

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 20 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

good start
some years and places i have picked em half a wheelbarrow at a time off a dozen seeds

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 20 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Will my tomato, chilli and cucumber plants benefit from me putting some well rotted horse manure in the top of the pot?

Also, should I cut some of the foliage from my tomato plants?




Thanks.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 20 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

not the manure thing at that stage, it might "burn" the stems or roots, if they need topping up a good "potting on" compost would be better

i do not trim tomatoes apart from pinching out tips on over tall or branchy ones

they look good

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 20 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks for all that DPack. I'll leave the manure and just keep on feeding with the tomato feed.

Thank you they have kind of taken over the greenhouse. It's like day of the triffids in there.

Slim



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 20 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

In a greenhouse I would keep the plant down to one or two leaders, but no more.
At the stage you have pictured, I wouldn't remove leaves yet, but also wouldn't be concerned if you did. As they get a bit taller I would remove the leaves at the bottom. It doesn't take long for them to switch from energy producers to energy consumers as the canopy starts to shade them. Also important to preserve good air flow when possible

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 20 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've been taking the leaders off when the tomato plants have got to 4 trusses. Should I leave leaders on?

Thanks for the advice Slim

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 20 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Am I wrong in keeping to one stem then? That was the old way of growing most tomatoes, and so I have kept to it.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 20 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I found this on gardeners world website.

Quote:
For growing purposes, tomato plants are divided two distinct categories according to their growth habit. ‘Bush’ (determinate) types are left unpinched and need only to be loosely tied to canes to prevent them sagging. ‘Cordon’ varieties (indeterminate), also known as vine tomatoes, need pinching out and training during the growing season to get the best results.

Left to their own devices in the British climate, cordon tomatoes will produce masses of leafy growth with some flowers and little useable fruit, but with regular care your plants will keep producing tomatoes until early autumn.

The cordon growing method refers to training the plant on a single stem, tying this into a cane, and removing all the side shoots that start to form between the stem and leaves. With plenty of light and regular dressings of tomato feed, plants will start to flower soon after the 10th true leaf has formed and will continue to produce flower trusses right up the stem. Under glass – in a porch, greenhouse or conservatory – expect to get up to six trusses of fruit for each cordon-trained plant by mid-September.

Although you can get more trusses to form, the limitations tend to outweigh the benefits, so take out the growing tip back to a leaf joint just above the uppermost truss, so that all the plant’s energy is channelled into the fruit. In favourable locations outdoors, you should aim to get around three trusses to ripen fully.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 20 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's what I thought and the way I have been growing them. I have vine tomatoes, as those are the easiest plants to get hold of, and I don't have much luck growing them from seed. House not warm enough at the right time of year.

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