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mochasidamo



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
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Location: Montgomery
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 13 12:09 pm    Post subject: Llamas....removed Reply with quote
    

Advert removed due to policing and down-valuing by forum members. This is an issue that needs addressing on DS - it puts many people off.

Last edited by mochasidamo on Mon Aug 19, 13 6:00 pm; edited 1 time in total

Bodger



Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 13 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is not fair to expect a vendee to both buy and sell your llama, so how much are you looking to get for them?

mochasidamo



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 615
Location: Montgomery
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 13 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bodger wrote:
Is not fair to expect a vendee to both buy and sell your llama, so how much are you looking to get for them?


The PM system thankfully allows genuine animal lovers to offer what they feel comfortable paying. This is in line with our sustainable farming policy. Hope this helps

Bodger



Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 13 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

As clear as mud.
I am actually considering some that are advertised on the Accidental Smallholder forum and they've been 'brave' enough to state a price. I'm sure that they are as equally committed to sustainable fair farming as yourself and just as interested in only selling their stock to genuine animal lovers.
This isn't just directed to you, but if folks have something to sell, then for goodness sake be prepared to say how much you want for the item. A person selling something should set a price and then between a little bargaining, a price settled upon. Thankfully, that's the way that most people conduct business.
Fishing on the chance that someone might offer a higher price than expected is not nice. Its something that I wont do whether I'm selling or a buying.
The buyer as I've said, shouldn't have to both buy and sell. Why didn't you say POA or PM for prices?
Hope this helps.

mochasidamo



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 615
Location: Montgomery
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 13 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bodger wrote:
Why didn't you say POA or PM for prices?
Hope this helps.


Because that's usually seen as an acceptable way of selling on forums. I don't think of livestock are "items" and it is surely not a "brave" thing to send a PM enquiring after the things that matter to you/asking questions before discussing prices by offer or request as I politely suggested. The quality of stock varies hugely and your accusation of fishing is unjustified and frankly rude.

Bodger



Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 13 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

"This isn't just directed to you"

Piggyphile



Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Posts: 891
Location: Galicia
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 13 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I always find a price guide helpful because I don't want to waste my or the sellers time chatting about livestock and then find it is hugely out of my price range. Once you have made that contact it is awkward to back out at a late stage because of money and suggesting to a seller that they are asking too much also seems rude. Llamas seems to vary a lot in price and are in an odd animal niche where you don't eat them, the wool is not as fine as alpacas so the use is mostly ornamental unless you fancy trekking.

leggy



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
Posts: 340
Location: Monmouth
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 13 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

On several forums I frequent from hunting to cars,if you don't put a price,the advert is removed by a moderator .

Bodger



Joined: 23 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 13 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks you two, I was beginning to think that it was just me. If you're prepared to sell something, then surely you must have a price in mind, so I fail to see the problem of intimating what it is. It doesn't have to be a figure set in stone, that's why you often see items offered OIRO.

Piggyphile



Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Posts: 891
Location: Galicia
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 13 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There are quite a few Llamas on preloved from around £200 ish

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45377
Location: yes
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 13 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

umm £2 a kg live

llama burgers are very tasty and retail quite well at £5 per 100gm patty in a bun

even allowing for pop and cut and inspection there is a good margin

Shan



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 13 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't bother with adverts that do not have a price. They annoy me intensely.

TTouch Homestead



Joined: 13 Oct 2011
Posts: 703
Location: Cardigan, West Wales
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 13 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Adverts with no price, or even a website advertising something without giving price are passed by quickly on my pc and I move onto one that gives prices.

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 13 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

TTouch Homestead wrote:
Adverts with no price, or even a website advertising something without giving price are passed by quickly on my pc and I move onto one that gives prices.



As are goods in shops that dont have a marked price..

oldish chris



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 4148
Location: Comfortably Wet Southport
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 13 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

As the Rolls Royce salesman once put it: "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it."

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