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NeathChris

Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Location: Neath, South Wales

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:01 pm Post subject: Poor Pigs at abbatoir

Have you all seen them? Went up today with 3 of our gilts. Seemed to be lots of pigs owned by lots of very dogy looking people trying to make a quick buck t christmas time, they looked very poor pigs that had been underfed, not cleaned out and limping. Really felt sorry for the pigs. Even the slaughterman was in shock. Animal welfare werent really able to do anything as they were "fit for slaughter" technically. Any of you seen this?

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:08 pm Post subject:
Thats awful, I hadnt really considered that it would be worse at this time ofyear but of course I can see that it might happen. Can't the abbatoirs help with reporting welfare issues to the relevant authorities?

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:09 pm Post subject:
Sally, i think the problem is that the standards are so low, that even a poorly raised animal will pass.

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:11 pm Post subject:
Even more reason to buy from people we know

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:12 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

Sally, i think the problem is that the standards are so low,

Margins too, I'd bet.

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:13 pm Post subject:

nickhowe wrote:

Margins too, I'd bet.

I wouldn't doubt it. I'll have to listen in to the farming report on the way home for the latest prices.

NeathChris

Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Location: Neath, South Wales

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:54 pm Post subject:

standards are very very low. but these were people with only 6 or so pigs, no big commercial people. I couldnt believe the people there, they were very shifty, one bloke even said to me he owned a top show winning boar, that a friend i deal with owns! Was saying how good this boar he owned was, then left very sharpish when i pointed out his mistake! Trying to steel someone elses glory to add value to his own pigs, unbelieveable. I bet alot of people will be selling "rare breed pork" this week, but how much of it is rare and reared well with care and attention?

NeathChris

Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Location: Neath, South Wales

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 12:55 pm Post subject:
Oh and after seeing how low ukl standards are just imagine how low they are for the 750,000 onnes of pig meat imported to the uk is that doesnt reach these standards!

LynneA

Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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Location: London N21

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 1:01 pm Post subject:
If these animals were in poor condition, but still fit to enter the food chain, what confidence can we have in biosecurity measures being adhered to?

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 1:30 pm Post subject:
Not seen it at our little abattoir, but can well believe it (and think of the poor people eating them too )

doctoral

Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 1:38 pm Post subject:
I feel sorry for anyone who feels they have to eat rubbish like that, but some people care more about quantity than quality. More's the shame.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 1:59 pm Post subject:
From an animal welfare perspective its unforgivable. From the perspective that good meat matters its also unforgivable; miserable pigs taste bland and unpleasant, happy pigs taste great. Its that simple.

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 2:20 pm Post subject:
I find it worrying that animal welfare can't act based purely on their observations that the animals appear uncared for. Surely thats enough to enable them to investigate at least?

piggybreeder

Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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Location: Kirkbride Cumbria England

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 2:27 pm Post subject:
It makes you wonder though ,were they smallholders or farmers who just jump on the 'quick buck ',wagon for christmas.

saffranne

Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 06 3:09 pm Post subject:

sally_in_wales wrote:

I find it worrying that animal welfare can't act based purely on their observations that the animals appear uncared for. Surely thats enough to enable them to investigate at least?

same here,it really is very worrying ,have you tried getting in touch with the animal welfare officers

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